Sony E-mount Full Frame is coming for high end camcorders only (for now)


So, it sounds like we will still have to wait a bit before to see the first “cheap Leica” Full Frame mirrorless. Sony is going to announce a new E-mount Full Frame camcorder that will likely cost a lot and be uninteresting for 99,9% of us poor photographers :)

Anyway there is hope that Sony may announce a sort of E-mount FF NEX-7 alike camera in 2013. But it still want be a fulfilled system as it is rumored that there want be any E-mount native Full Frame lenses. You will very likely need an adapter for Alpha or M Mount lenses. And current NEX lenses will work in crop mode. I don’t think that is a super tempting system. Would have been nice to have a full new system with native FF lenses included right from the start…

Let’s hope Fuji will do it…Fuji are you listening?

  • ljmac

    When is everybody going to get over full frame fetish? Sony’s current subframe sensors have enough DR and high ISO performance for all but the most extreme conditions, and they’ll only get better. Sony’s current subframe sensors make FF just about irrelevant for the vast majority of users – FF just means much more bulk, weight and expense. Oh, and wank value, which I guess is what really matters in camera forums like this. :-)

  • BdV

    FF… pfff. Nauseating.

  • Camaman

    Has anybody ever tested any of the NEX lenses to see if they project a FF image circle?

  • deniz

    to be honest im only interested in a full frame nex as an M mount digital back and i dont care the slightest bit about ff nex lenses might be like.

  • justin aderpassebi

    There’s a high chance that the FF hybrid will have interchangable mounts, like a Ricoh GXR. Except with the FF sensor on the camera body.

    And there’s nothing special about this, at first. Initially Sony will have the A-mount for native FF glass. But eventually, third parties could make full data communication mounts (if not motorized), for most lens mounts that exist.

  • T-L

    I would love to see faces of FF zealots, when they read this news. 😉
    Do you really believe there can be a CHEAP FF system?

  • Esa Tuunanen

    Have you ever tried thinking?

    It’s good bet that 35mm sensor cameras won’t ever become cheap compared to APS-C because manufacturing that much bigger semiconductor costs something like 10x times the price of APS-C sensor.
    And mirrorless design removes lots of mechanical complexity of SLR and advances in semiconductor manufacturing allows electronics to become cheaper because of smaller size or less individual chips. Both of these mean that in the future sensor is only going to make even bigger part of total component costs.

    Even whole 35mm size got chosen only because they could get that size film for cheapest price using film made for movie industry.
    And only reason why 35mm stayed as standard until digital age was because in smaller size (like APS film) that analog technology just couldn’t perform well enough in resolution or sensitivity.

    • Denis

      Dude, you doesn’t seem to think as well. You’ve messed everything up with strange (in fact, wrong) implications and conclusions.

    • Esa Tuunanen

      So you’re challenging me, that means I get to choose place and weapons.
      Let’s finish this like men if there’s any spine in you and your buddy Denis.

      Time someone put some respect into you school bullies.

      • geekBuster

        Balls must drop. Then you talk tuunanen.

  • NerdBuster

    You obviously ignore the basics of photography, or you are a marketing man for some sub-brand that has no FF products. Which one? Both? Or simple tosser?

  • Dummy00001

    Yeah! FF is cool!! Rest – sucks!!! F**k the common sense – it’s for the nerds only, anyway.

    P.S. But the news itself is at least to me not surprising. To me FF really makes little sense on NEX – NEX needs more native lenses, not adapted. But the main problem is for (and the market with slightly deeper pockets) the videography. They know how to deal with the digital backs, huge MF lenses and camera cages. Adapted lenses – adapted without optical compromises – is totally OK to them.
    That of course leaves open the shallow DOF question. For that, I hope simpler tech would soon appear, like the one in the patent:
    That already can be implemented – in software – using images captured with Panny’s (otherwise useless f/12!) 3D lens.

  • Denis

    The bigger sensor, the higher IQ and subjective image quality perception (in the case both larger and smaller sensor have same S/N ratio). In reality, the larger sensor means the larger S/N ratio. And in case of APS-C vs 36×24, APS-C has not reached the level of an ancient Canon 5D yet in high ISO performance up to ISO 3200.

  • Eddie Argos

    You’re incorrect about aps c vs canon 5d according to dxomark.

  • El Aura

    If the basics of photography are that bigger is always better, where is my MF mirrorless?

  • Denis

    LOL WHAT? Look carefully, 5d high iso rating is 1368 ISO, the d7000 has only 1131. Not a big difference, but 5d is still ahead. And notice, high ISO performance is limited by unavoidable (at the sensor level) photon noise. And D7000 is quite close to it, so APS-C sensors are unlikely to beat even old 5d.

  • Eddie Argos

    who’s talking about the d7000. What is the d7000? From 2010?

    Look at the dxomark score for the nex-7, the fuji x100 and d3200 vis a vis the canon 5d

    Are you seriously trolling?

  • Denis

    September. Photokina. Hasselblad.

  • narutogrey

    Considering all the current NEX lens has at least a little bit of vignetting even on an APS-C sensor, the current lens available probably won’t come close to covering a FF image circle.

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