New Fuji organic sensor patent. New sensor with super high resolution!


The jaanese blog Egami (Click here) posted another patent about the new Fuji organic sensor. The new technology will allow a super color fidelity because it will be a sort of “Foveon” sensor where one single pixel contains all the RGB color information.

Also Fuji managers have been interviewed by Impressjapan. And they confirmed that the new sensor will surpass the image quality of any current fullframe sensor and it will also have the largest resolution (Megapixels).

If all that turns out to be true than Canon and Nikon could soon feel that the premiership is no more a battle between the two only.

  • FMJ

    keep the competition coming!
    Hopefully the Fuji mirrorless won’t cost an arm/leg ?

    • admin

      Not that much 😉

  • spam

    Lots of technologies (anyone remember Fuji’s SuperCCD SR) are the greatest ever until someone gets to try it. I really hope Fuji has something revolutionary, but I’d like to see it for myself before I get too excited.

  • Renato S.

    I wonder why they are still pursuing even higher resolution.

    Shouldn’t them aim for something like 18MP and make the IQ even better?

    • Anu Nyymi

      Because more resolution results in better image quality. Not only you get more details, more options, but also the dynamic range increases. Adding more pixels is the primary way of improving image quality for any given sensor size – stagnating in some fixed pixel count give no practical advantages.

  • Steve

    dpreview doesn’t think this will happen next year.

  • Ben

    It says it will have “super color fidelity” like Foveon, but Foveon has the worst color out of any sensor on Earth.

  • frank

    Snooze. I’ll believe it when I see it. Plus will this sensor do 9fps or is it going to be one of those slow boring sensors.

  • newton

    As far as havingthe most megapixels (even more than fullframe). My guess is they will market these similar to sigma’s foveon sensors (also non bayer). Sigma claims the effective megapixels is 3 x the actual megapixels. So fuji could make an 16 Mpx sensor “equivalent” to a 48 Mpx bayer sensor.

    While some of this is marketing there is an advantage in resolution especially in green or red, can’t remember which right now due to the bayer design.

    • Arnold

      The resolution advantage is especially in red and blue.

  • Dave Lively

    It will be interesting to see how well this works.

    The DPR article makes is sound like the sensor use new technology to convert light into electricity. But if that was true Fuji would be trying to use this process to make photovoltaic panels. Many governments are offering large subsidies for this kind of technology. If it was efficient and cheap Fuji would be trying to cash in every way possible. Their marketing department would be promoting it as a cheap “paint on” solar panel.

    The diagram shows a sensor that uses an organic compound as a light sensitive variable resistor. It produces no electricity and has to be powered to work. A voltage will have to be applied across the organic layer so the resulting current can be measured. The number of electrons captured for a given exposure could be increased by reducing the thickness of the organic layer or increase the voltage between the electrons. How well the sensor works will also depend on how linear the resistance changes with light exposure and how much heat also affects the resistance. There are an awful lot of unknowns here.

    It is always good to see new technology introduced but best to remain skeptical until it produces results. I hope this works better than current sensor technology but and not going to wait for it.

  • McPIX

    Fuji, let it rock!

  • explorer76

    And why in your opinion the DR would increased with more pixels? The only advantage of adding pixels is more resolution. With significant engineering effort, the noise / DR from a high-megapixel sensor can be made to be about as good as a lower-pixel count sensor, but I am not aware of any reason for the high-MP sensors to be better than low-MP sensors in terms of DR or noise. And there are really only a tiny fraction of users who need the added resolution from the ultra-high MP sensors of today. A huge majority just looks at their picture on screen or makes at max 8×10 prints – even an 10-12MP sensor is good enough for this with even room for cropping. So arguably if the engineering effort spent on dealing with the issues from small pixels is instead directed towards further improving the lower-MP sensors then the final results can be better.

  • TR

    Interesting article. Interesting that this technology will work well for smaller sensors. I wonder…
    1) if they will sell this to anyone (e.g. Olympus)
    2) if these sensors will have a limited life-span.
    3) if fuji are all talk (there must be something in it)

  • Random Poster

    A friction, maybe, but they exist. For those who need fewer pixel, let’s ask the camera makers to include pixel binning as a standard feature.

    Is everybody happy?

  • Anu Nyymi

    It is not an opinion, but a fact. Please note that I am talking about the dynamic range of the image, not the potential DR of a single pixel which is quite irrelevant for the end result.

    With more pixels you get better SNR to the highlight and midtones *for the image*, not for a single pixel. Only the very very very deepest shadows suffer a bit, and for normal photography with today’s low read noise sensors that is not relevant for normal photography as noises add up in quadrature and the photon shot noise remains dominant until the very deepest shadows and adding pixels helps to make more accurate measurements of the photon flow.

    “Improving the lower-MP” sensors as you hope, does not make awfully lot sense as there is not really much room for visible improvement with current technology (CMOS+Bayer) – this is because the read noise is already extremely low for the best sensors (about 2e-) and the quantum efficiency is also, for the best sensors, at near maximum for sensors with color filters (about 50%).

  • Anu Nyymi

    0. Will the technology arrive in 5 years or 10 :)
    1. Have they sold sensor chips in the past? (I don’t know) This would give an indication on the company philosophy
    2. Organics can be protected – the Bayer color filters are organic
    3. One must never underestimate the reality bending skills of the marketing
    4. How will they address the kTC noise – I am not sure if CDS is possible with this design

  • Dave Lively

    I started writing a rebuttal to your position but when I started looking at images and test results from the Sony NEX 5N and 7 the evidence did not support my position. I hate it when that happens. I could not see much difference in anything except resolution looking at the images. The 24MP sensor did not have more noise or less DR than the lower MP sensor in the 5N when the 24MP images where downresed to the same size. It did not look like the 24M sensor had more DR but that is sometimes hard to see in studio shots used for comparisons.

    This is not the case with compact cameras with much smaller sensors though. When Canon and other companies reduced the MP count on their high end compacts from 16 to 10 the image quality improved noticeably in every way except resolution. This is probably because the pixels were getting so small that interconnects were taking up a significant part of the sensor. BSI helps but this is still an issue with compact sensors with too many MP. If Fuji tries to make a compact sensor with their new technology they are going to have to prove DR and noise will not suffer as the MP count increases before I believe it.

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