The “mini-NX1” is coming in February (NX400)

I got this rumor from a very good Samsung source:

Not sure they’ll succeed in doing this, but at nx team they are doing their best to get the nx400 ready for the cp+ show in February.
Confirmed the same sensor and AF system as nx1. No weather sealing, smaller buffer (but much bigger than older models).

Would certainly be nice if it becomes true!

  • Phil

    Great to hear!
    But: EVF? :)

  • tecnoworld

    So no evf???? Again????

    Samsung will fail badly if so.

    P.s. any news about uhs-ii compatibility? That could solve the small buffer issue.

  • rjbell

    Where does it say no evf?

  • Lukas

    EVF is missing in those two rumour sentences – but it doesn’t mean it won’t be there.
    I hope there will be two versions of NX400 – one with and one without EVF.
    Anyway I don’t want to see the NX400 because then I will have a taste for it :D

    • tecnoworld

      Right, I hope that’s the case. If Samsung did a simple marketing research, they should have seen how good the nex6 (and now e a6000) is doing in sales. No nx camera ever sold that much, even the less expensive ones.

      It’s the kind of body that sells a lot. Compact, yet powerful and with an evf.

      I hope they are finally wise enough to manufacture a camera which is almost as good as the nx1, but with an a6000 (or even better gx7) like body.

      • Lukas

        I agree. With NX1 Samsung shows they can do it. They can be major on the mirrorless market. The question is if they want it. I was always wondering who make the decisions there because they could do such things earlier.
        So now I hope that NX400 will be almost as powerful as NX1 and almost as compact as NX300.

        • tecnoworld

          Exactly my same hope! ;-)

  • Ash

    It won’t have an EVF because they want you to buy an NX1…

    • tecnoworld

      They did this “trick” with nx30/300. The result is that nx30 sold quite poorly (average mirrorless user wants smaller body) and nx300 sold a bit better just because it was much cheaper, but poorly compared to Sony (average mirrorless user wants an evf).

  • rjbell

    Surely it will have a evf?

    Almost every review i can find about the nx300 is “great camera where is the evf?”

    They must read reviews at least sometimes!

    • tecnoworld

      I agree. Nx1 is too big too appeal to many (for a mirrorless). Quotation from “digitalcamerareview”:

      ‘It’s almost impossible to use it with just one hand and using it with both hands for an extended period of time causes wrist strain, regardless of the lens size. Mirrorless cameras owe a large part of their success to the fact that they are compact and lighter than DSLRs, but this isn’t the case with the NX1 model.’

      They definitely need a smaller model with similar specs. Otherwise ” bye bye nx”!

  • brad

    Hi all, I’m new to MR have been cruising this site for quite some time now. Finally signed up today. I am in the market for a new mirorless and have narrowed it down to either the Fuji XT1 or Sammy NX1. I have used a Sammy nx 100 since new but have an opportunity to upgrade. I was relieved of my camera bag whilst overseas containing samsung 12-24, 50-200 and other bits and pieces.Insurance was kind enough to pay up. Still have the nx100 with 20-50 which was around my neck at the time.
    Ready to upgrade now to either fujji XT1 or samsung nx1. The only thing that I am unsure of is the 4K H265 recording on the samsung. Does this mean unless I upgrade both my Televisions and Bluray players I will not be able to view any recording from the Samsung? This wil be the decider on which camera system I will go with.

    • Lukas

      Very difficult choice. I would wait for some detailed reviews of NX1.

    • tecnoworld

      The x-t1, spec wise, seems to have a slightly larger evf. IMO is better as size/weight (nx1 is definitely much bigger and, IMO, uglier).

      But for the rest the nx1 seems to edge it quite comfortably (50% more megapixels, faster continuous shooting, 4k video). Still unknown is the AF/tracking AF performance of nx1.

      X-t1 is surely cheaper, for now.

    • tecnoworld

      The x-t1, spec wise, seems to have a slightly larger evf. IMO is better as size/weight (nx1 is definitely much bigger and, IMO, uglier).

      But for the rest the nx1 seems to edge it quite comfortably (50% more megapixels, faster continuous shooting, 4k video). Still unknown is the AF/tracking AF performance of nx1.

      X-t1 is surely cheaper, for now.

  • brad

    Thanks for the replies anyone up to speed with the nx1 h265 format? Will it enable me to record and play back at current 1080 h264 format. The XT 1 is equipped with h264 like most other cameras.

  • rjbell

    To my eyes on my smartphone Samsung 50-150 is sharper than nikons 70-200.

    Nikon D750 vs Samsung NX1: http://youtu.be/jUlbdMxSB-Y

  • John Jagnow

    Samsung NX-1 has better spec’s than any camera made today

  • Mk.82

    They can make the body as small they want, but they hit the limit of the user experience finding small body bad. Olympus E-M5 is already in the border of that limit and E-M1 is perfect in design and layout and it was required to make bigger because the user experience.

    But while body can be small, larger sensor requires always a larger aperture opening to get as dense light as smaller sensor, that means the lens diameter is always bigger and it requires more glass and makes it heavier. And longer focal length is required to cover wider angle of view and even longer to cover narrower angle of view. The m43 system lens always can have 2x times smaller aperture for same light density and it allows to make always two times smaller lens diameter, two times shorter focal length and so on make it much shorter.

    With larger sensor you end always having a larger lenses or then slower lenses. Like Sony has problem with A7 line up. They have small body but they can’t make larger aperture lenses than f4 because the lens diameter would otherwise be doubled if wanted to make f2.8 or even faster. They would end up to have a larger and much heavier lenses and it would affect negatively to user experience and find the camera body to be too small and handling would be even worse.

    Sony and Nikon only change is to make clones of their current models but convert them to mirrorless. Remove the mirror and prism, add the EVF and call the day. They would get to keep current generation lenses without doing a new ones. And people would call them blindly at first day because “it is mirrorless” and familiar huge body that covers the large and heavy lenses.

    People just have hard time to understand that m43 sensor collects four times denser light than 35mm sensor for same angle of view. Allowing to make the camera smaller (shorter focal length).

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