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  • Avatar Image admin said 3 months, 1 week ago:

    Those of you living in Japan can visit the CP+ Fuji booth in Yokohama. The picture on top shows the new Fuji X PRO 1 with M-mount adapter and M-mount Zeiss lens attached! A full set of Fuji booth images can be seen at DC.watch (Click here).

    And there is are many new Full Size X PRo 1 image samples at http://www.pbase.com/hpicckcy/fujifilm_xpro1 (via Fujirumors.com). They have been posted by Hugo Poon which says: “I’m not a reviewer and this is no review. Have to be frank, I never have the time (nor interest) to do detailed tests and comparison. My only interest in an equipment is how well it can help me capture the moment and document the familiar places that are fast changing and even disappearing… Though I had had only a couple of days to shoot with this new gear, I couldn’t be more convinced that this is Fuji’s one most powerful photo taking machine to date.
    PS. Click “original” for best viewing quality.

    Not many websites posted X PRO 1 image smaples. Here is the short list: Fuji (Click here to see), Christian Fletcher (Click here),vladdodan (Click here), F64 (Click here), Focus Numerique (Click here) and Fotodigitalonline (Click here).

    The question to you is:

    From what you have seen so far...did the X PRO 1 image quality impress you?

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    The Fuji X PRO 1 camera can be preordered:
    in USA/Canada at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), Bhphoto (Click here), Epxansys US (Click here) and Expansys Canada (Click here).
    in Europe at Jessops UK (Click here), eBay Italy (Click here) and Expansys UK (Click here).
    in Asia at Amazon Japan (Click here) and eBay Japan (Click here).

    The Fuji X 18mm f/2.0 can be preordered:
    in USA/Canada at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), Bhphoto (Click here).
    in Asia at Amazon Japan (Click here).

    The Fuji X 35mm f/1.4 can be preordered:
    in USA/Canada at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), Bhphoto (Click here).
    in Asia at Amazon Japan (Click here).

    The Fuji X 60mm f/2.4 macro can be preordered:
    in USA/Canada at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), Bhphoto (Click here).

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  • Avatar Image anonymous said 3 months, 1 week ago:

    Fuji Pro is on top of my list! All lenses I need exists/is in their roadmap. Lens prices are decent. Already the X100 exposure accuracy is very good as well as lots detail in both highlight and shadow.
    Nex-7: using the adapter you can have a quite good lens line-up – at the sacrifice of portability
    EM5: Is the IQ really better than from the G3 I already own? No doubt camera features are better, but at double price. I miss macro and HQ telezoom in my lens case. = continuing in m43 system will cost too.

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  • Avatar Image anonymous said 3 months, 1 week ago:

    Is someone going to ask Fuji how they expect people to focus that lens? Image magnification is not going to be the popular answer. Folks want focus peaking and it would be great if this can had it…

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 3 months, 1 week ago:

    +1

    Focus peaking would be also quite disappointing as the EVF is not going to be one of the best on the market… (Half the resolution of the Nex-7).

    What’d be only interesting is a sort of focus confirm (bip and light) on the OVF, like you have when you use adapter ring with focus confirm chip on a DSLR (for example C/Y or Leica R on Canon EOS). ;-)

    But also when you see the price of the body I think they will sell this adapter for a premium also.
    x1.5 crop factor, small finder and quite a big body size (for a mirrorless) make it not as appealing than that…

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 3 months, 1 week ago:

    Agreed. Magnification stinks, especially for street, which is what people will use this camera for. That said, after seeing these samples I think I’m sold. I’ve been debating between this, the nex7, and an m43 body, but I think these push me over the edge.

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 3 months ago:

    X100 sounds really promising, but I still haven’t seen the sharpness I’ve been expecting from the 18/2 in the samples floating around. There’s also been more NR than I’d like in some of the high-ISO JPEG shots – I’ll be waiting to see how well the sensor really performs in RAW once samples and converters are out.

    NEX 7: why should NEX be less portable than other mirrorless systems with adapted lenses? Or do you mean that legacy lenses are larger than native lenses? If legacy DSLR glass is too large, there are lots of compact (though not always cheap) rangefinder lenses – M39, M, G mounts.

    EM-5: I don’t think the IQ is noticeably better than G3 so far. But it does have some advantages: metal body, weather sealing, better viewfinder (it has a progressive display unlike the G3′s field sequential display, so has 3x the real number of pixels), eye sensor, IBIS, wireless flash. I do agree that the price point is too high – I’d rather get a GH2, which although larger and heavier (and plastic), is still the video king. There are some nice macro options in m43 – ZD 50/2 w adapter, ME 45/2.8 and the upcoming Oly 60/2.8, and the HQ telezoom is coming, though it won’t be small or cheap.

    All 3 competing systems have their strengths and weaknesses. As much as the X-Pro1 entices me, I can’t (personally) justify paying $2.3k+ for the camera and an extra lens to get started in a new system. And the AF, handling speed and video are classic Fuji weak points. But I’m betting it’ll have the best DR and noise characteristics of the coming generation.

    NEX-7 is still hurting from the paucity of E-mount lenses, and the Zeiss 24/1.8 is very expensive. However, it has the best EVF and there are more lenses coming – hopefully, they’ll be good enough to keep up with the high resolution of the sensor, which hasn’t been true of the current lens lineup.

    m43 is the dark horse entrant. It has the worst high ISO in stills, but the most mature system with the most lenses (many of which are very good). It has the fastest AF and the best video. The GH2 is the go-to choice for videographers, but you’ll have to decide if you can live with the limitations of the sensor if you’re a stills shooter.

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 3 months ago:

    +1

    I’d guess that many people extolling the virtues of focus peaking haven’t used it for critical focus. The technology was developed (and has been around for years) for video cameras, where the lower resolution and historically high DOF meant that focus accuracy was less important than operator speed.

    As Matt says, it would be nice to have both, but not having it isn’t the end of the world. People got by for decades using zone focusing for street (“f8 and be there”), and you can get reasonably fast and accurate results just using the EVF or LCD with manual focus for quick shots.

    Is focus peaking a nice feature? You bet. Is it essential? Probably less so than you might think. It’s definitely something to consider, but it would be rash to base your entire purchasing decision on one feature when you should be considering the strengths and weaknesses of a given camera (and system) as a whole.

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 3 months ago:

    You’re right, I’ve not used it, but the x-pro isn’t a rangefinder and if they’re pushing the use of M-mount lenses then surely there needs to be some help to focus the things? zooming in is slow. there’s no rangefinder patch like there would be on an M9. there’s no ground glass on the OVF like on an old SLR. if they’ve got other idea’s to help then I’m happy to hear them but focus peaking gets quite a bit of good press and I’d like to try it. surely even as an option you could turn off it would be a good thing?

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 3 months ago:

    Not sure its fair to say Fuji is pushing the M-mount adapter. They are selling their own auto-focus lenses. On the forums, owners of legacy glass have been pushing many of the manufactures to provide some kind of adaptation. It would be nice if Fuji managed something really accurate and efficient, but I suspect zone focusing and/or use of image magnification is going to be what you get.

    I would guess that the M-mount lenses will work. By that I mean put a good image on the sensor. But to expect performance like that a native M-mount rangefinder would provide is probably unrealistic.

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 3 months ago:

    Well, on the X100 I manual focus by picking the area I want to focus on and push the AE/AFL button on the camera. Much faster than turning a focus ring on a lens and judging focus by some feedback system. It seems to nail it good enough so far.

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 3 months ago:

    It’ll depend on how good their viewfinder/LCD and display algorithms are.

    On my GF1, I find the rear LCD to be great for manual focusing, even when I don’t use magnification. It has a response similar to ground glass on a DSLR, the image just ‘pops’ when it comes into focus.

    On the other hand, I really didn’t like the EVF on the GH2 for manual focus. The field sequential display would tear with movement, and it wasn’t as clear when things were in focus. This despite the GH2 EVF claiming to have 3x the resolution of the GF1 LCD.

    The only other mirrorless camera I’ve tried with manual lenses was a NEX-5, and the rear LCD was also adequate for critical focus. This was before Sony introduced peaking, I believe.

    I will admit that doing critical focus on a rear LCD can be very tiring. After a few hours, your eyes hurt and your mind gets tired.

    I hope that Fuji implements good aids for manual focusing. And I do think more manufacturers should follow Sony and Ricoh and add focus peaking. But it’s not a panacea.

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 3 months ago:

    Color, DR and noise seems to be well balanced and ISO3200 is really decent ;)

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