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Canon patent discloses kit lens for mirrorless system and APS-C sensor! (89 posts)

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  • Avatar Image admin said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    The question now is not if Canon will do a mirrorless camera or not. The real question is when is it coming? The last patent discovered by the japanese Egami website (Clcik here) dicsloses a new 18-45mm f/3.5-5.6 kit lens for mirrorless camera with ASP-C sensor (That is what Egami reports). The lens has a spherical aberration of 0.1mm ±, astigmatism less than 0.2 ±, a wide-angle distortion of -11% and chromatic aberration is about 0.6?m ±.

    And I guess it’s about time for Canon to announce the mirrorless camera as soon as possible. The G1 X alone will not stop the growth of the competition. And also reviewers from top websites are thinking the same:
    The guys from Cnet (Click here) reviewed the G1 X: “A big camera capable of shooting some lovely photographs, the Canon PowerShot G1 X’s slow lens disappoints given its high price“.
    Also Digitalcamerainfo (Click here) tested the camera: “We see the PowerShot G1 X as a miss for Canon. We had a lots of fun shooting with it, and love the shots we were able to capture. But with the $800 price tag, and the explosion of the mirrorless camera, there are too many better, cheaper options available to list. This is a fine camera, but one we cannot recommend.

    It’s time Canon!

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Digital Canonet?

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Sure they’ll jump in soon or later. But their EF mount is way too big for mirrorless, and I don’t think they’ll be able to catch up with the expertise of Olympus, Panasonic, Fuji and Sony, even Samsung on EVIL camera technology. Haha, look at Nikon.

    Well, time will tell though.

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    “It still worries me that in the long run mu43 will not be able to keep up w/ all the ASP-C. Eventually they’ll all get solid glass selection”

    Yeah, but how many years would it take Canon to get where m4/3 is lens wise? Three to five? And where will m4/3 be then? And if new E-M5 sensor is really as good as first images show, why would anyone go APS-C? In five years, with another sensor generation, high ISO advantage APS-C holds will become irrelevant, because m4/3 high ISO will be good enough for most uses. Canon and Nikon are not in an easy position right now, more hesitation may cost them dearly.

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    MFT just needs to get their marketing straight. IQ is good enough, lenses are there. Sony did a lot of things right too.

    Nikon, come on.
    Canon, didnt even see a market a few years back, a lot of time lost. All the others, wont have a huge market share.

    In the end, (M)FT has a better stand then ever before.

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    “(Eventually they’ll all get solid glass selection, no?)”

    Well eventually they’ll all get great glass and great sensors, the only difference is mu43 will always have the most compact lenses.

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Canon has nothing to catch up, they have the tech and the money and the means to crush the rest of the CSC makers when and if they want. Nikon purposely made the v and j series like that, and at their first attempt, the af speed is one of the best..you can’t say that for panny or olys first attempt…remember the ep1? Canon has a long tradition of making rangefinders, slrs, aps, small camera ps cameras..you name it. The 900 pound gorilla is just sitting in the corner and taking his time..but once you wake that gorilla up..watch out. As for EVIL tech, what is there realy but the removing of the mirrorbox and contrast AF? Fast AF more or less depends on faster and more processors, something i think Canikon can afford or know how to do.I think m43 users should enjoy what they have cause if Canikon decides to seriously make CSC cameras with new mount and lenses, it will spell the end for the competition. And that might be a good thing, cause Iam sure many ppl have an issue with buying an ep3 or a gx1 for 700 and that doesn’t even get you a VF.Be careful of what you wish for because if Canikon CSC’s destroy the competition, there will be just a Canikon monopoly.

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    The end of m43 will come when nikon or canon make a camera that has a better sensor, better AF and at a similar price point.These are the things they CAN do. the question is not if or when. If the competition eats too much into canikons dslr market, they will come in with all guns blazing and leave not one surviving m43 victim. the canon gx1 and the nikon 1 are just stop gap, test the water products. It’s obviously not a true serious reply to m43. i would never bet against Canon or nikon, as they always have something they hide up their sleeve. Just look at how they throw in a gx1 like it was something from their scrap heap of cameras pile.I’m sure they have a lot more solutions they won’t launch until they see fit.Panny and oly are walking on a double edge sword. If they gain more and more dslr market share and overall camera market share, they run the risk of waking up the 900lb gorilla in the cage that is Canikon.And once the gorilla wakes up, there will be no stopping its wrath. If they don’t wake the gorilla, they will continue being marginal camera makers and will eventually fall into nothingness. Oly and panny have to chose carefully but the future may be an end game no matter what they do.

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    If any of them make better, cheaper and as small alternative to m4/3, I’ll be the first to sell mine. I’m not under contract, I just want small camera that makes good pictures and so far there have been none from Canon or Nikon.

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    I look forward to when the might of Canon join the CSC market. (I’ve used Canon’s for a long time.) The G1X suggests that they have real problems with focusing using contast AF an a larger sensor.

    Do you really think that they have the technology and know how to do it well – but just could not be bothered to put it in the G1X?

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    lolwat?
    They couldn’t make good APS-C camera for 2 years already. The ones they have produced are inferior compared to cameras with sony exmor sensor.
    Their AF even in 1D… series is less versatile and reliable than one of Nikon.
    Etc.
    Although fanboys aren’t smart enough to realize this ;)

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    May be you are right. Canon will release a great CSC. Or they might just through something else which people will say looked like it came from their scrap heap of cameras. (It would be hilarious bluff for Canon to pretend that they can’t do contrast detection AF well by releasing the G1X when really they can. Although G1X buyers might not see the joke.)

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    “The end of m43 will come when nikon or canon make a camera that has a better sensor, better AF and at a similar price point.”

    No, if Canon settles for APS-C sensors, m43 will still be smaller and lighter, and that is what many people prefer; good image quality in a small package. There will be cameras for all tastes and all budgets. Exciting times!

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    In the early days of 4/3′s sensors the 1-2 stop advantage APS-C had was a very big deal since even APS-C was only good up to ISO800-1600. In fact, noisy sensors was the main factor that made me choose APS-C DSLR’s over 4/3′s DSLR’s.

    However, the new Olympus OM-D looks really good all the way up to ISO6400 and may even be usable at ISO12800 for some things. With that type of noise control an extra stop or two advantage for APS-C is really irrelevant for most users. Better lens selection is more important now, at least to me.

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    I don’t really agree with you. Sure, Canikon has a lot of resources but that does not automatically mean that they will succeed. Remember, kodak had great resources too. When they enter they will really have to commit. Nikon has already done so. The 1-system is their entry to the field. They went for smaller than m43 with PD-AF and in many ways it make sense. Now it looks like Canon will go for APS-C. There thay will have competition of Sony, Samsung and Fuji (I don’t really count the pentax k-01) who are already in the game and who has great resources as well. In the end Canon has a stronger brand but I don’t think they automatically will become a market leader in mirrorless because let’s face it m43 is the top dog in that game. It has the biggest system and a great compromise between size and performance. Let’s face it. Canon is late to the game and unless they have something really revolutionary they will have to play catchup to the big guys. With their marketing resources they might do alright but they are not “the 900lb gorilla in the cage”. They are a big player that is realizing that the market in many ways is running away from them. Reminds me a bit of Nokia actually and how they are failing in the smartphone-game.