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  • Avatar Image admin said 5 months ago:

    The japanese “Impressjapan” magazine had an interview with Canon Managers. You can downlaod the magazine pdf here: https://www.impressjapan.jp/pr/monitor/1112_dcm/271201_free.pdf.

    UPDATE: Our reader “Fh” (thanks!) translated the interview. here is what Canon thinks about the mirrorless future:
    – Will you be releasing a mirrorless camera?
    Well, the C300 is mirrorless; just very big. But as for a real mirrorless, we will look at the market this coming year in order to make the best decision.

    – When you say “look at the market”, are you concerned that mirrorless cameras would affect DSLR sales?
    No, just that when you look at the current mirrorless systems and how they are used, there are many different approaches.

    – For instance?
    For mirrorless cameras, being able to change lenses is certainly a big merit. But you have to wonder, are interchangeable lenses really the only point of mirrorless cameras, considering the added size for the lens mount? When you’re taking pictures, a standard camera size is fine, but when you’re not…

    – Right, they’re still quite big.
    And on either side, we are challenging ourselves to make DSLRs that are smaller, and compacts that have better image quality. So you have to ask if a mirrorless product is really necessary to fill the narrowing gap. Of course, we are more than capable of making a mirrorless camera, if we decide to.

    – So you think current mirrorless cameras overlap DSLR and compact markets?
    Right.

    – But that doesn’t mean you wouldn’t release a mirrorless that overlaps other markets, right? You mentioned you want to release a mirrorless in 2012.
    Well, we want to release a mirrorless next year. But next year, the other markets will also change: there will probably be smaller DSLRs and compacts with greater image quality, which might eat into the mirrorless market.

    In short, as the quotations from the interview highlight:
    “Do mirrorless cameras really need interchangeable lenses?”
    “DSLRs and compacts might eat into mirrorless market”
    “Big improvement in image quality for consumer cameras than the past year”

    The online PDF is cut short, so I can’t tell if any other information was given. But it was not strictly confirmed that Canon will release a mirrorless in 2012; just that IF they decide to release a mirrorless, they want to release it next year.”

     

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 5 months ago:

    Seems to me that the Canon guy was talking about a mirrorless camera with FIXED lens… looks like a G13 for me

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 5 months ago:

    Hopefully they won’t make the same mistake as Nikon – make mirrorless with too small sensor and go for P&S upgraders only.

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 5 months ago:

    Well, the interview doesn’t really confirm or deny a Canon EVIL.

    Excerpt translation:
    – Will you be releasing a mirrorless camera?
    Well, the C300 is mirrorless; just very big. But as for a real mirrorless, we will look at the market this coming year in order to make the best decision.

    – When you say “look at the market”, are you concerned that mirrorless cameras would affect DSLR sales?
    No, just that when you look at the current mirrorless systems and how they are used, there are many different approaches.

    – For instance?
    For mirrorless cameras, being able to change lenses is certainly a big merit. But you have to wonder, are interchangeable lenses really the only point of mirrorless cameras, considering the added size for the lens mount? When you’re taking pictures, a standard camera size is fine, but when you’re not…

    – Right, they’re still quite big.
    And on either side, we are challenging ourselves to make DSLRs that are smaller, and compacts that have better image quality. So you have to ask if a mirrorless product is really necessary to fill the narrowing gap. Of course, we are more than capable of making a mirrorless camera, if we decide to.

    – So you think current mirrorless cameras overlap DSLR and compact markets?
    Right.

    – But that doesn’t mean you wouldn’t release a mirrorless that overlaps other markets, right? You mentioned you want to release a mirrorless in 2012.
    Well, we want to release a mirrorless next year. But next year, the other markets will also change: there will probably be smaller DSLRs and compacts with greater image quality, which might eat into the mirrorless market.

    In short, as the quotations from the interview highlight:
    “Do mirrorless cameras really need interchangeable lenses?”
    “DSLRs and compacts might eat into mirrorless market”
    “Big improvement in image quality for consumer cameras than the past year”

    The online PDF is cut short, so I can’t tell if any other information was given. But it was not strictly confirmed that Canon will release a mirrorless in 2012; just that IF they decide to release a mirrorless, they want to release it next year.

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 5 months ago:

    May it be a Full Frame mirrorless and I will immediately buy it.

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  • Avatar Image anonymous said 5 months ago:

    Thank you fh, much appreciated.

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 5 months ago:

    Fh Thanks very much for the translation.

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  • Avatar Image anonymous said 5 months ago:

    Thanks for your translation. BTW

    “Do mirrorless cameras really need interchangeable lenses?”
    -Do X100, leica X1 and fixed ricohs sell more than nex/m43? Do they even get smaller?

    “DSLRs and compacts might eat into mirrorless market”
    -Exact opposite actually, and they eat it real good.

    “Big improvement in image quality for consumer cameras than the past year”
    -Yea..so is the mirrorless. Big time.

    Pretty much what I expect from a company that try to make you think what they want you to think.

    They said interchangability is like dubious and misleading. That is an idiotic statement. X100 is a lot bigger than NX200+30/2 and X10 to GF+20/1.7. And can a fixed camera ever produce a nice wonderful effect that oly 45/1.8 and sammy 85/1.4 gives?

    All I want to ask is, what is the point of uninterchangability of a big, good sensor? None.

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  • Avatar Image anonymous said 4 months, 4 weeks ago:

    I would agree with Canon that a mirrorless with fixed HQ zoom would be the perfect street photo camera: Say a m4/3 sensor size similar to Fuji X100, but with a 24 – 120/2.0 fixed, collapsable zoom.
    Fuji X100 and Leica X1 are prime and fixed, really very old fashion. Today zoom lenses can be booth fast and with high image quality.

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 4 months, 4 weeks ago:

    “Today zoom lenses can be booth fast and with high image quality.”

    Can you give an example? AND DON’T EVEN DARE TO SAY THAT 10 MEGARAYS(VGA 640×480) RES CRAP!

    The closest is oly’s f/1.8 XZ1 which has teeny tiny sensor and variable aperture.

    BTW Fuji X100 doesn’t have m4/3 sensor size, just so you know.

  • Avatar Image anonymous said 4 months, 4 weeks ago:

    I doubt a 24-120mm f/2 would be small; and might not even be possible. Just look at the size of the Olympus 12-35mm f/2 (24-70mm eqv). Making it a collapsible design a’la compact cameras/Panasonic X 14-42mm would surely help, but I bet it would still protrude at least 2″ in the collapsed position. It would also have to have a very large diameter.

    My guess is a 28-120mm f/3.5-4.5 is far more realistic if using a m4/3′s size sensor…and even that might be too ambitious.