Fuji says leaked lens roadmap is close but not final (+ more full size images)
Our friends over at Dpreview picked up our rumor posted yesterday to ask Fuji if the leaked lens roadmap is real. The answer was that yes, it’s real but not final. The maximum aperture of some of the lenses can still change and in total there will be nine lenses within the next two years. Of course there will be more X cameras too.
You can see more new X-PRO 1 fullsize images on Flickr (Click here), Fujifilm (Click here) and DCfever (Click here). What I really would like to see is an image comparison with other current cameras. I want to see if that new Fuji sensors is really a visible step forward comapred to the competition!

Camaman
5 months ago |Niiice walk through.
Shows the speed of the camera. I am not sure what to think of it. Blackouts and jerks look kinda annoying.
People who used more EVILS will now better.
TomR
5 months ago |nice shots on flickr, but personally I still don’t see any magic.
Gabriel
5 months ago |According to exif, it’s 3200iso shots, and they are clean and sharp.
TomR
5 months ago |Oh, sorry, I didn’t realise that. Hmmm, not bad at all for 3200. Actually the fuji photo of the nut or seed or whatever it is at 1600 is also nice. You can see noise but very smooth. Much nicer than my olympus.
Berneck
5 months ago |Hmmm, agreed. It’s impossible to draw any concrete conclusions from watching that, but something seemed sluggish about it. Sort of like my GF2.
We need reviews!!!!! Lol
Rob
5 months ago |http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ChjzvHPOq4
I’ve counted quite a few AF red boxes, and not as snappy as we are hoping it be be. The UI is sexy as hell.. but I’m beginning to love the styling and package of my x100 more and more.
Andrea
5 months ago |I already preordered mine, here in germany. BUT! I had the x100 and sold it after 5months because of the way to slow AF. I had really hoped for something better, as I am vey pleased with the speed of my GX1 and they showed so much improvement with the UI …
I’ll wait for a review, I can still cancel my preorder then
Dummy00001
5 months ago |> Of course there will be more X cameras too.
As X cameras go, at the moment, I’m more interested in the other X – G1X.
Hype surrounding Fuji’s announcement IMO is exaggerated. OK many enthusiasts will buy them – many unfortunately (as X100 experience had showed) mostly for bragging rights.
But Canon making such a move as the G1X IMO might (I hope) have deeper impact on the mirrorless. It’s bit on the pricy side, but the compactness of the package is matched only by the m43 with 14-42X. I just hope they didn’t blow it in the performance department.
P.S. And it is rather interesting detail that Canon introduced new largish sensor just for the camera. It suggests that either the costs of producing new sensor size are relatively low, or (very probable anyhow) they are going to introduce other cameras based on the sensor.
Andrea
5 months ago |wrong reply. s.a.
voldenuit
5 months ago |>P.S. And it is rather interesting detail that Canon introduced new largish sensor just for the camera. It suggests that either the costs of producing new sensor size are relatively low, or (very probable anyhow) they are going to introduce other cameras based on the sensor.
My guess is that Canon repurposed the sensor from the 550D/7D, and are simply discarding 20% of the photosites via software/firmware. The sensor in the G1X has the same pixel pitch, which is suspicious.
This would be the quickest way for them to bring a large sensor to market, since they won’t have to design (and fab!) a completely new sensor for a niche market (how many people buy Powershot G cameras?).
Personally, I think the G1X is too big, too slow (aperture) and too expensive. I would definitely have preferred a faster and wider lens, even if that came at the cost of some telephoto range.
Pascal645
5 months ago |Hmmm, official images are a bit underwhelming. After all the hype, per-pixel sharpness doesn’t seem any better than what Sony pushes out with the NEX-5N and is not as good as Leica’s M8, for instance (all this subjectively, of course)
I was ready to hit the button, but I’ll wait a few weeks for more final images.
Bob B.
5 months ago |Pascal, I agree. The last comment on Admin’s post above is he would like to see image comparison of the Fuji with the top-of-the-heap Mirrorless cameras. I am dying to see this….as sooo far…when I shoot raw with my GX1, and convert the images for the web…my results are looking MUCH sharper than the full-size sample shots on the Fuji site. It could just be poor file downsizing on the part of Fuji..but wouldn’t you get that right when you are launching a “breakthrough” technology. My spider senses tingle. Admin posted some more “full-size” image links above…but I found the Flicker link to be more useless than the Fuji-Site images, and the DCfever link is just a slow-load rehash of what is on the Fuji site..
I have to laugh…all of this HYPE, all over dozens of websites, presentation at a major consumer show…and I have seen NO images that would sway me to buy this camera. I do not care what the form factor is. HELLO …FUJI…are you listening…please…SHOW ME THE BEEF, ALREADY.
This whole situation is laughable.
Thomas
5 months ago |Please show me pictures where your GX1 has such results.
Leica M9, yea sure. But its Fullframe with incredible piece of lens in front of it.
The pictures looks fine. Very sharp ( i mean cmon! they ARE sharp as hell!!) with very nice tonal and dynamic range.
Im very curious about a comparison as well! really hope to see one soon!
But i think the Fuji will be lot of better then any m4/3, and a bit better then Sonys 5N.
For me, as PEN user with 20/1.7 and 45/1.8, the camera seems to be what i always wanted. Nice lenses, nice Body, and when the IQ is on par with the latest APS-C cameras, then i have no reason not to buy it (except for the money of course^^)
Bob B.
5 months ago |Thomas…there is no way to do a side-by-side with my GX1 and the Fuji. We will have to wait for a side-by-side review…or we could go back and forth for days. I have been shooting for 45 years. I am telling you that my conversions for the web have more pixel detail (sharpness), than what Fuji has presented so far. Please look closely at the Fuji images…tonal range is there and beats my GX1 ( again I am guessing)…but the images are not sharp. Look closely at the fine detail…like in the jewelery in the sample (one is shot at f/8…it should be WOW-tack sharp. It just isn’t). It could just be bad conversions, ie, small, degraded jpegs….but why would a company post such crap for a camera launch?????
The stuff coming out of my GX1 with the Pany/Leica lenses is sharper than the posted Fuji full-size samples.
Maybe the Fuji is capable of more, it should be, I want it to be…but so far….I have not seen that. Period.
hexx
5 months ago |I disagree Bob. Those images are sharp. Not over-sharpened in PP as we use to see over the net these days. Download full-res samples from their site and look at them at 100% (YES, PIXEL PEEPING), good example is the image with a book and stones. You can clearly see the texture of the material hard cover (blue-ish one)is made from and also texture of the paint. There’s so much detail captured in that photo, smooth colour transitions, no banding, no fake contrast, just smooth.
Just resize any of the downloaded full-res images to whatever resolution you use for web/presentation (1600×1200 for example) and you’ll see that these images are very sharp.
Your web conversions – if you use Lightroom it sharpens them for screen by default.
One thing I noticed though are the CAs on the 18mm lens images (the one with the stone, look at the leafs, one of them has purple fringes)
Bob B.
5 months ago |Hexx…I have to disagree. I just peeped (LOL) AGAIN…The point of focus is the blue ornament in that shot…(f/8 I believe)..and the edges of the gold jewelery just do not look that sharp to me. Nor do the diamonds or what ever they are. Perhaps you are right..that the image is not over sharpened… (I do have the NR turned off on my GX1 and have it at normal sharpness). Perhaps the softness that I am perceiving is noise reduction on Fuji’s part.
Again…I am not saying that the Fuji camera is not capable of sharper images…but I am personally disappointed at this point in the sharpness of the “full-size” images that I viewed so far. They are certainly not as sharp as anything coming out of my 5DMkII with L glass…and that is Fuji’s hype, that this camera has full-frame image quality.
For me …the images I have seen so far….are a disappointment. Certainly they do not move me to want to sell my small GX1 camera and prime lenses to buy this set up…which is what I was expecting with this release. I am just not wowed….but lets see what happens when a 3rd party does a comparison. I really want this camera to be GREAT!!!!!!!!
DaStar
5 months ago |The x100 takes razor sharp images. The sample images on Fujis site are nowhere near what the x100 does. I expect the same happening to the X-Pro 1.
Just look at the x100 launch and the comments people made. They are the same as yours. Sample images are not sharp etc. etc. etc.
When the cameras got out and the first real reviews started rolling in nobody had anything bad to say about the image quality and the sharpness of the x100.
This camera costs double what the x100 costs and thats without lens. Do you really think that fuji would boost about their new sensor if it wasn’t that great?
hexx
5 months ago |@ Bob – “5DMkII with L glass” – this is what I was telling my friend always. He is complaining about ‘softness’ of his 5DMK2 – sell that bloody Sigma and get a proper Canon ‘L’ lens.
I guess we will have to wait for reviews and user feedback to judge the picture quality.
as I was typing above, photographer who has few photos on Flickr uploaded 3 full res images http://www.pbase.com/hpicckcy/full_size_originals
and also some ISO 6400 images: http://www.flickr.com/photos/26706225@N08/
Bob B.
5 months ago |hexx…thanks for the info on more images…..I will check them out…although from what I could see of the photographer on the flickr site…I need someone with more skill. (I am demanding..LOL).
Also…as far as your buddy goes with the 5DMkII…I have all L glass, primes and zooms, EXCEPT a Zeiss 21mm AND a Sigma 50mm f/1.4. Most Sigma lenses I would stay away from…but this lens (my copy anyway) is extremely sharp…if a little quirky with the focus at times. I really do like that one Sigma lens.
Arnold
5 months ago |WOW ! the ISO 6400 images are very impressive.
hexx
5 months ago |@ Bob, he’s had various problems, back focusing and so on, already on 2nd Sigma lens (wide one but don’t remember exactly which one). Camera was in the service centre twice but I still believe it’s that Sigma lens. He does have L lenses, (70-200 and 24-70(?)) and he’s not experiencing any of the problems with those 2 lenses.
Bob B.
5 months ago |Hey..DaStar…thanks for the input! I did not buy an X100 and was not aware that Fuji’s sample images were that bad for that camera. GREAT. that is good news. Perhaps this new Fuji is awesome after all. I guess we know that the “experts” are going to over analyze the crap out of this one, so we should know more soon. I know that the X100 has a lot of quirks..but image quality is NOT one of them…but I was thinking that there may be a problem with this new sensor resolving well. I bet you are right. I am dying to see what this new camera is capable of. I bet it has it share of quirks too, though!!!!!
Dummy00001
5 months ago |> HELLO …FUJI…are you listening…please…SHOW ME THE BEEF, ALREADY.
1. As a general rule, all stock photos are crap. There are some good stock photos – but as an exception (confirming the rule) they are not representative of the quality of the camera being demoed. The Fuji stock photos actually not so bad, by are not representative. Cause I do see the moire – the system was poised to remove – it there but looks different (random pattern?).
2. As beef goes, think marketing in reverse: what they have showed is the beef of the X Pro 1.
Manobol
5 months ago |as usual a lot of hype and PR and not much substance.
but fuji knows how to create interest with at least good looking cameras.
amalric
5 months ago |The samples at fuji’s site, if pixel peeped ,are no better than a E-PL1 for sharpness.
What it might have is better DR retention at high ISO, but it’s a 16 Mpx sensor, and the pixel density should be less.
In summary it has a performance that can be matched very soon by m4/3, while it probablly lags behind in AF speed, size, menu interface.
For the price it is unconvincing unless you aappreciate the design and a lineup mostly made of primes.
My early impressions, not yet a judgment.
Bob B.
5 months ago |Well put, amalric. I agree with you completely.
Manobol
5 months ago |but but… fuji says it is BETTER then fullframe!!
does that mean fuji was lying again to their customers?
Sahaja
5 months ago |What they actually said is that it has “equal or better resolving quality to a full frame sensor” – that is different from “out resolves full frame” or that it is “better than full frame” overall.
Though quite what they mean by “resolving quality” I’m not sure. Better/smoother rendition? less noise? more dynamic range? sharper? – Might mean any one of those things – or something else.
Fants
5 months ago |These are some of the worst sample images I’ve seen in a long time…not a single one of them represents a serious attempt at showing what the camera can do. Show us some freaking RAWs, Fuji!
Sahaja
5 months ago |And just how would you properly convert the RAW files from this camera right now?
Might be difficult – especially as it has that novel pixel arrangement.
Cyclopedia Brown
5 months ago |The best samples from the XP1 I have seen are from Hugo Poon on Flickr…. These are quite sharp to be shot at iso 3200.
I shoot with a 5DMKII and L glass and im not so sure that I could get that level of sharpness at that iso with it. Perhaps I am wrong but if anything these images would be comparable to anything the 5DMKII could do at that iso.
With my 5DMKII I notice a loss of sharpness at high isos and a good deal of noise…
I went searching for similar images to the POON shots from 5DMKII shooters. All shot at ISO 3200 all at night all of similar locations.
See for yourself…
HUGO POON: XP1 @ 3200iso
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26706225@N08/6672729023/in/pool-1880035@N21/lightbox/
http://bighugelabs.com/onblack.php?id=6670580929&size=large
5DMKII @ 3200 iso (Photographers unknown)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmhuei/3856059604/lightbox/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mi-ki/3313244603/in/photostream/lightbox/
Needless to say, I am impressed
Cyclopedia Brown
5 months ago |Another from Hugo Poon @ ISO 6400
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26706225@N08/6678959543/in/pool-1880035@N21/lightbox/
Cyclopedia Brown
5 months ago |@6400!
http://bighugelabs.com/onblack.php?id=6678959539&size=large
Bob B.
5 months ago |Holy CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now you’re talkin!!!!!!
Why would Fuji post such CRAP samples if the camera can do THIS!!!!!
…anybody want to buy a GX1. LOL.
hexx
5 months ago |I thought you don’t like his photos
Bob B.
5 months ago |Well…I am not WOWED by his images…but …just that one sample showed me more than the other photos he posted…and much more than anything that Fuji posted. Don’t you think that Fuji would hire an excellent pro and really let him show us the strong points of the technology and the individual lenses. Someone who could chose situations and light that would really show each aspect of what they have created? Maybe they should hire me. I would have done WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than ANYTHING I have seen so far. I am not God’s gift to photography or anything…but I could have done much better than this….and made better jpegs, too!!!!!!!! LOL!..and I am an old man. Some young, hot, talented shooter could have had a ball with this! No?
HEY FUJI!!!! IF YOU READ THESE POSTS, PLEASE SEND ME THE X-PRO 1 CAMERA AND 3 LENSES AND LET ME RESHOOT AND FORMAT YOUR IMAGE SAMPLES…I WILL DO IT RIGHT AND WOW EVERYBODY!!!!!!! LOL!
Dummy00001
5 months ago |Resolution: 1262 x 860
I’m not impressed.
DR
5 months ago |Dummy, have a look at these: http://www.pbase.com/hpicckcy/full_size_originals
Download to your computer and view in your favorite image viewer. They are full size jpgs from the camera.